steady -- >> let's go by what obama thinks -- not obama, romney thinks. i think he has done more than we know. here is romney with eric fern strom. if he thinks he's winning, why is he throwing these mud balls like this guy is hanging around with chavez? why he throwing mud balls about jeeps going to china when it's not true? why is he heading to pennsylvania? i just checked with neil, one of the top consultants in pennsylvania, he said four points to six points. he says they will only lose -- >> why are they going to minnesota? why are they going to -- >> he's suggesting he's desperate. >> i think it is. they have had -- their overarching strategy has been kitchen sink. everything at all times, keep throwing things at the wall and we'll hope because the economy is not good, people will vote for mitt romney even though they don't like him. >> here is -- >> at the end of the game when they're looking at the numbers and they see they can't close that gap in ohio no matter what they've done and i think last week might have hurt them in ohio -- >> might have?